Trying to understand what the Hebrew Scriptures say reading only the English translations, is like repairing a 747 Jombo Jet with a VolksWagon manual...it can't be done!
What the translators did was to turn the meanings of the Hebrew words around making the Scriptures say things that are not written in the Hebrew!
The Scriptures were given to us through the Hebrew people.
The Messiah gave us a warning that we MUST STUDY the Hebrew
in order to understand what was written. Remember in Matt.24:15 He said we should read and understand what Dan. wrote.
The big lie that the translators pass off as truth is that the Second Volume or what we call the New Testament was written in Greek.
Here is a web site that will let you see the LIE.
http://thebookofyahweh.com

May Holy Spirit bless your understanding

Bill613

Would like to know what you folks think.

Bill613

The religions of this world were created to hid the truth found in the Scriptures.
All religion do this with their traditions.
The written living word has a power in itself.
The truth will make you free from the religions and the deception they use to deceive.
When you seek after truth with all your heart, TRUTH will find you, few walk down the road to truth.
Should you have eyes to see this truth PLEASE come by and see what great things Father Yahweh has done in these Last Days.
http://www.yahweh.com

May Holy Spirit that gave us the Scriptures through the Hebrew People bless your understanding.

Your true friend
In Yahshua Messiah

Bill613

Hi Wizanda, Wat do you mean qouting Paul and the angel of Light? Lets explore that some, especially about the angel of light? I know where you stand on paul somewhat? Tie the two together , but concentrate on the angel of light.. I understand wat you mean, about different faiths seeing a different image, however I think God has a resting image of sorts..It does seem to be tied to the spectator. I wonder wat Jesus sees when he goes into the blinding light, that even angels cant see into at times. What does Yashua see? a form and face? Or does he dissolve into pure energy and visit the father that way?

Your right about God being the central core of everything, I passed thru his pillar of light around 1995, in a out of body thingy..This angel came and got me, but thats another story.. That pillar of light (God) was connected to everything and sustained evrything. I suspect that is why since then, I can see and figure things out so fast. Sometimes I dont just see with my third eye, but am looking thru a thousand eyes, like looking thru Gods eyes, with complete harmony and perfection. It doesnt overwhelm me, but feels cool..I learn quick when that happens. It think this comes from passing thru the Fathers essence and energy like that. I dont know, for being such an awesome force, it has certianly has intimacy, and lots of character.

I read that about Zan being a sickle, your turn will come, like the rest of us, when the new jerusalem comes to earth.Thats when the spirit is poured out WITHOUT MEASURE..I think the 3 of us are qualified for very high levels in this coming kingdom.. It will be graet if we could hook up in a heavnly ufo and go fetch some souls for the kingdom..I pray for that to happen, in Yashuas name. amen

So you see about Lucifer going to Job, this does nail him down as an entity for sure..You didnt come across real clear with that . What do you mean, no superforce leading it? See wat I mean? Ya lost me there..All I know is lucifer is a false light hiding in the astral planes over earth, and satan, his carnal couterpart is hiding in the dark astral planes over earth.. They both work diligently to make lies in there areas of influence. By working 144,000 astral planes, and mass producing satanists on earth, the combined spiritual energy produced from trillions of players has created a superfoce of some type.. I do belive without this, there would be no force. The bigger darkness gets, the stronger it gets..I feel the only way sin can die, is to grow big, mature into insanity, and then die in the lake of fire.

So when you say ther is no satan, you mean a superforce independent of all of this? You might be right, but the way you say it, sounds like your saying there is no entity that works to create this superforce. Thats the way it reads, and thats why I had to doublecheck that. I suspect others have done the same. Unfortunalty this misunderstanding cancels out a lot of good your trying to get out. This follows with some other subjects too, quite a few actually. Are you dislexix? lol I dont know Wiz, ya need to speak in plain english, and keep it simple. Because some of us will catch it with a check, and spin ya back right.. but wat happens when others cant do that, and they could get confused and leave..keep it simple and straight..After all I am just a 55 yr old kid! lol

So now that we know satan is real, as an entity, should we go kick his butt, using the power of Yashua..1 cor4:5 "dont run ahead of the Lord". Thats wat the spirit just told me..

I think, part of the problem is they are sacrificing thousands of babys a yr at crucial times, on major vortexs on earth. That magnectic impulse ofritual death is injected into the matrx, to make things darker and more chaotic. And we see it all around us, in our dealings, and human quickening, to the end. They are building a force that hangs in the matrix and watches things. Thats why you, and David, and I; are so hemmed up..I see it, I feel it, and I know it; and I am at war with it..It watches us!

Sacrificing the tens of thousands of babys into the grids these last 20 yrs is having an effect.There is a force, but they have created it by doing these things. But there is also an entity called Lucifer/satan who are the masterminds behind this..I am glad to see you understand all of this. That makes me relaxed agian..

Now their was much more in my thread about the new jerusalem, find out some more to ask me about? And thanks Wiz, for humbly presenting the spin, in an easier light to follow.lol "spin city" aint got nothin on us..lol