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| wizanda | Re: Do you believe that God turned His Face away from Jesus on the Cross?
Posted on: 2005/9/2 7:28 |
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I have heard off quite a few people, that what is taught is this:
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I disagree completely and this is not what Christ was sent for, or true in the slightest!! In fact it is Anti-Christ doctrine, as according to Isaiah and the scripture people love to quote: Quote: Isa 53:5 But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was on Him; and with His stripes we ourselves are healed. Yet what the church has not done and the Pharisees doctrine (Paul and John) have made the rest of it not clear. Quote: Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased Jehovah to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when they shall make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of Jehovah shall prosper in his hand. As I have explain in one of the articles, an intercessor is not to take the sin as quoted in John's lies! Yet an intercessor is to explain something to the judge, i.e. God! So Christ doesn't take sins, God does!! Christ can explain things to God, yet God is judge and ruler. Final decision is always left up to the king, not the prince. Yet if you have been a friend of the prince, he can explain to his father. Having been to heaven my self and seeing this first hand, I find it scary, as many have fallen into the snare as Isaiah puts it. Believing that, been washed in the blood of Christ they may recieve eternal life. Quote: Mat 23:25-30 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of extortion and excess. (26) Blind Pharisee! First cleanse the inside of the cup and of the dish, so that the outside of them may be clean also. (27) Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which indeed appear beautiful outside, but inside they are full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. (28) Even so you also appear righteous to men outwardly, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. (29) Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets, and decorate the tombs of the righteous, (30) and say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. I would love to post all of matthew 23, as this is so clear if you forget Pharisee doctrine i.e. Paul and John Read it your selfs digest it and wake up, you can not follow Paul, Simon and John and follow Christ! | |
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| wizanda | Re: Do you believe that God turned His Face away from Jesus on the Cross?
Posted on: 2005/9/2 7:04 |
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Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour, Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is, My God, My God, why have You forsaken me? Quote: Psa 22:1-31 To the Chief Musician, on the deer of the dawn. A Psalm of David. | |
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| qOLOp | Re: Do you believe that God turned His Face away from Jesus on the Cross?
Posted on: 2005/9/1 1:57 |
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I agree with you 100%.
I have heard this message preached in just about every protestant church I have been to, and I always had a problem with it. This had been a stumbling block for my faith for years. If God let down his own Son what chance does a sinner like me have? This interpretation of passage has two serious problems. Number one, God the father turned his back on his Son when he needed him most. Number two, it gives the appearance that Jesus was bewildered and distraught, and that he was failing. I knew this had to be wrong and God showed me the connection to the two verses about year ago. Jesus wasn't crying out in desperation, he was crying out in victory. He had fulfilled all the prophecy and his suffering was coming to an end. It was right after this that he bowed his head and gave up the ghost. I think it's important that others see the connection so I am posting the section of the chapter that speaks to the prophecy of His crucifixion. Quote:
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| wizanda | Re: False Teachers,like Pat Robertson
Posted on: 2005/8/31 16:44 |
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I must say an excellent post to begin with!
Twice I have prayed for strength in writing some of the things contained in this site, and twice within 5 minutes; Jehovah's witnesses have turned up on my door step, to my surprise. To talk to me about God, the 1st time was the main preacher's son; he then returned a week or two later, with his wife to hear what I had to say. So yes Jehovah's witnesses do hold a lot which is true and I am still impressed by their timing, as they must be guided by God for that to happen, yet they also are still blinkered to the truth. The reason being as I have seen within your post are this. The books of Paul are false; he contradicts Yeshua on over 36 points read this article. The blood of Yeshua is taught as a ritual; communion is due to Paul and the Pharisees. The book of John you refer to as the apostle, sorry to say this also is by the Pharisees and is John Nicodemus/Nicolaitans. Not as we have been taught to believe, John the disciple or apostle. Most of the gospel of John is made up, between the two of them they have taught communion as if Christ said it. This makes people believe that drinking the blood of Christ, is something to remember him by and will cause them to receive eternal life. As you have just stated they are given blood to drink as it is their due. This is not a good thing as I have explained in this article. Now where did these things spread from, Christianity was originally founded in Rome, as no Jew would allow all these things to be taught in Israel. This includes the disciples as what they taught, was different to this. No friend of Yeshua could go around preaching his death as a good thing, as is most of the Bible, after the book of Luke (expect James, Jude and Revelations). What Babylon is, I will explain this briefly and will write up a full article on the matter as I see much confusion on this issue! Babylon was the great city and it aspired to be the biggest; the Roman Empire was a great city and aspired to be the biggest. Now you say that Babylon is not Rome, from what you have said is correct, as you correctly refer to the fact, the western world is now this. Yet what you must do is take a step back and have a look where the roots of our civilisation have spread from. You will see that, the roots of our political system contain a hierarchy a council of elders. This is the same as the rule of the Roman Empire i.e. Babylon. The Roman Empire, as you seem well read will properly know this, they adopted the bible as they saw the popularity of Christianity and so to keep control of the people, and they include it as their main belief. Yet also when they had the Bible canonized they rearranged it and choose the books that would give a certain outlook and burnt all other books. None of this is to take from anything Yeshua has said; instead it is to remove the Pharisee doctrine or at least illuminate to the fact, Paul and John were Pharisees. Yeshua told you not to listen to them, as little bit of Pharisee leaven goes along way. Look at society and the mess we are in and a lot of it stems from this. | |
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