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Re: Jesus brings war Posted on: 2005/10/26 20:24
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I only attribute to satan what he is responsible for as an entity that works iniquity. I attribute to man what they are responsible for as humans.

I do not attribute satans mischefs to humanity. People have free will and a choice, so we reap what we sow as individuals, as ethnic groups and as nations.

But apparently satan has lost his free will, and has been turned over by God to become the ultimate evil. So satan is responsible for what he does, and we are responsible for what we do.. I never said we can put it all on the devil.. Where did you get that at?

Ezekial 28: 18-20 And God shall cause a fire to spring up in satan, and he shall burn up in front of the saints, and never shall he be anymore.
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Re: Who or what is the devil! Posted on: 2005/10/26 20:17
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I feel the devil exists whether we believe in him, or not.. Because Yashua said, " I saw satan fall from heaven." Plus the bible goes on to talk about how Lucifer wanted to ascend to Gods throne, then there was war in heaven, and the devil and his angels were cast out! This implys an entity. I dont see how you can ignore that..

This belief that the devil exists only because we believ in him, and by doing bad things we create him. Thats not the case. When we do bad things, over and over agian, we create ASTRAL parasites. These attach themselves to our Astral bodys and influence us to keep the habit, lust, or whatever IT IS going. Because it wants to be fed.. This is completly different than Lucifer, or the devil; who is a stand alone entity! The same thing has happened to him. Because of his rebellion, he has created an astral parasite known as satan, or the devil. The results of disobedience is the same for everything, even an angel. Its the same for us, as humans. Its our choice, using free will, to decide to do the right thing, or the wrong thing. The wrong thing creates astral parasites, like ego; that attach themselves to us, feed off of us, and drive us to keep it goping.

I have read many books by healers, hindus, and out of body practitioners; and they all say the same thing. They all see astral paraasites attached to our astral bodys. Smoking creates an astral parasite that craves nicotine. Lust creates an astral parasite that craves the object of lust. Coveting creates an astral parasite that makes us covet, even when we dont want to. Sunday keeping creates an astral parasite that wont let you see the 7th day sabbath. ect, ect. None of these are the devil. He is Lucifer, who has rebelled and is now called satan, a stand alone entity. The same thing has happened to him, that can happen to us, if we arnt careful, and aware about these things.

We have to be careful, because even New agers have been told by their guides and famaliar spirits, that we have to know hate, to understand love! What a buch of crock! Thats a lie straight from satan, or Lucifer; take your pick. The other created worlds who have not fallen, do not experience hate, and never have experienced it. Yet they are full of love.

This was Lucifers arguement in heaven, its how he started a war in heaven. By saying to other angels, "we cant really know love, unless we learn to hate also". They had no idea what he was talking about, and because of that, one third took the bait, and fell very hard into darkness. Now they have become pure hate, and are not capable of loving anymore. This is what sin does! Because after a point, God turns them over to that sin, and thats what they have become, pure hate...God tells ya, dont screw with me; I will make you become that sin, and you will never turn back!

Please consider wat I have said here. The investigations into the astral planes by healers, out of body practitioners and even many hindus, simply do not support your views. There is way to much evidence that says the opposite. Not to mention my own personal experiences with satan, cause I am in a war with him. and I will see him burn up in the Lake of fire, on that day.

Where do you think the grays and draco-reptiles came from, our thoughts? Not hardly, the grays kidnap women when their eggs drop, take the egg, then return the women. The grays are made from a human and animal DNA mixing. Satan did this to begin with, now he has them doing it themselves, to perpetuate themselves. Why do you think these things preach a false religion to Majestic 12, and other government ufo contacts. They say,"there is no God, but that we are Gods". Thats wat they say, wat a bunch of crock. You know better David, and so do you Wizanda! peace..

Ezekial 28: 18-20 And God shall cause a fire to spring up in satan, and he shall burn up in front of the saints, and never shall he be anymore.
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Re: Are Visitors from Space misinterpreted? Posted on: 2005/10/26 0:04
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Hi David, here is something you might be interested in. It was an out of Body journey a sister White had in the late 1800's; similiar to wizandas experience, but different..

I have seen the tender love God has for his people and it is very great. There is perfect order and harmoney in the holy city. All the angels that are commissioned to visit the earth hold a golden card, which they present to the angels at the gates of the city as they pass in and out. Heaven is a good place.
The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song.The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes; they were noble majestic and lovely. They bore the express image of Jesus, and their countenances beamed with holy joy, expressive of the freedom and happiness of that place. I asked one of them why they were so much more lovely than those on earth. The reply was, "We have lived in strick obedience to the commandments of God"., and have not fallen by dis-obedience like those on earth".
Then I saw two trees, one looked much like the tree of life in the holy city. The fruit of both looked beautiful, but of one they couldnt eat (tree of good and evil). They had power to eat of both, but were forbidden to eat of one. Then my attending angel said to me, "None in this place have tasted of the forbidden tree, but if they should eat, they would fall".
Then I was taken to a world that had seven moons. There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated. On his arm he wore a glorious palm, and on each leaf was written, "Victory". Around his head was a dazzling white wreath, and in the middle of each leaf was written "Purity", and around the wreath were stones of various colors, that shone brighter than the stars, and cast a reflection upon the letters and magnified them. On the back part of his head was a bow that confined the wreath, and upon the bow was written "Holiness". Above the wreath was a lovely crown that shone brighter than the sun, I asked him if this was the place he was taken to when he left earth? He said, "it is not, the holy city is my home, and I have come to visit this place." He moved about the place as if perfectly at home. I begged of my attending angel to let me remain in that place. I could not bear the thought of returning to this dark world again. Then the angel said, " You must go back, and if you are faithful, you, with the 144,000, shall have the priveledge of visiting all the worlds and viewing the handi-work of God." End of experience and out of body visit..

This is from a book called Early Writings by Ellen G. White. She was a prophet, starting in 1844 unto her death in 1917. She had over 2000 visions and never breathed, during any one of these visions, plus numerous out of the body experiences. Many of them are recorded in this book, Early Writings. She helped restore the 7th day sabbath back to the churches. This started the angel of Rev 10 ministry, that started a chronological establishment of seven truths the vatican had destroyed, by murder of the early church. All 7 truths have now been restored. Anywho I thought you would enjpy that David, I certianlly do! I think Enoch has been over me before, in his UFO, during those years of searching and discovering, I talked about to you before. I certianly felt his prescence back then, and still do today, at times.. Peace to you and much love my brother..

Ezekial 28: 18-20 And God shall cause a fire to spring up in satan, and he shall burn up in front of the saints, and never shall he be anymore.
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Re: Jesus brings war Posted on: 2005/10/25 23:12
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Hi David, heres some scripture.

Ephesians 4:3-6 "Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit thru the bond of peace. There is one body and one spirit - just as you were called to one hope when you were called - one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and thru all and in all"!

We are called to war, when those in the church systems; rebuke or block us, from bringing truths to them. We are called to war if satan attacks us personally by whatever means. We are called to war if any man trys to break into our house, or trys to harm our familys, or ourselves. And we are called to war, to deliver ourselves from darkness and bondage! Because the bible says, "O Zion, deliver thyself". Other than that, we are called to peace, and striving to keep the unity of the spirit! amen....

Ezekial 28: 18-20 And God shall cause a fire to spring up in satan, and he shall burn up in front of the saints, and never shall he be anymore.
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