Oneness - True Faith
David_Goodpasture
The Rose and The Bee Posted on: 2006/1/2 15:28
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2005/9/25 0:48
From Stockton California
Posts: 108
Living is philosophical, therefore everything we do is philosophical, it's called subjectivism. Everyones way of living and/or thought is a philosophy. We are all walking, living philosophies because we all hold a different perception on/of reality. Thus the bee has a different perception of the reality of the rose than you or me does. Now we enter the scary realm of questioning just what makes up the notion of philosophy? I would define it VERY VAGUELY as the ability to understand. All realities are philosophies, whether it is the bee or the rose. Without existence all things are natural. Existence and reality bring with them desires and needs, without these we have no philosophies. Imagine the universe a cold desolate place with no intelligent life of any type.(bee's, #OOPS#roaches, nothing at all) We are now at peace and synchronicity with nature. This is how we should live. Viewing things only in naturalness without judgements and desires. Just see through eyes with no brain attatched. Philosophi-less? ;) perfect existence. Everything just is because it is. Leave science up to science. You know what I'm saying? To get the answers one desires, one must rewind to the beginning of the problem and never stop until the page is blank. What is the problem? The ability to pervertedly question. If we delete the human perversions of the mind(want, need, desire, lust, control, greed, power), we get to where we desire. Can you view the world without the human perversions of the mind and use only your eyes and ears? Do this for a while, take it all in, store the information. THEN use your brain. You'll find your whole perception of reality changed. Egoless. Desireless. Needless. Different outlooks, a strange new world... you may even experience anxiety and a sense of insecurity, but what do you expect without power and ego at your side? You want peace? You want love? Then Get over it.
Transfer Print PDF Bookmark Top
David_Goodpasture
Re: The Rose and The Bee Posted on: 2006/1/4 8:07
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2005/9/25 0:48
From Stockton California
Posts: 108
I would re-modify that back to; all things are natural, and all things are only natural when you view existence through the eyes of the non-existent. If we are talking about philosophy.... then I think philosophically we can agree that philosophies are not limited to the human perception(then again, what is the human perception? as humans can't we perceive life and reality through any eyes? which in turn would make it human nature to be "multi-perceptional"... thus human perception IS multi-perceptional, there is no limit to the definition of human philosophy). Thus the bee is a valid candidate. Which would lead us back to the topic, what is the philosophical life? Simple... life IS the philosophy. Living is the philosophical life, no matter what form, language, color or location. I think the question should really be ; "What is life without philosophy?" Did I get you thinking?
Transfer Print PDF Bookmark Top
suzyq
Re: The Rose and The Bee Posted on: 2006/1/9 13:56
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2005/12/31 8:22
Posts: 90
Keep in mind free will is available to all who seek it and living life unencumbered becomes then, my philosopy, my understanding.

Truley living ones perception begins with a deeper understanding of the processes involved in ones own emotions and thoughts. Indeed the bee does see the rose differently, as do each of our experiences tell a new story from a diffrent perspective. Meditation upon this refines the mind and emotions allowing one the ability to connect the pieces together or to let them go. To live is to seek liberation, the freeing and rest attained from surrendering struggle for a more peaceful way. It awakens in self a desire for acceptance and brings riches greater than any other wealth, to the experience or rather perception of living, observing, participating, and being.

Many do not see the grieving process also attached to the art of living and observing life, yet it is there. Living in a sense is actually more difficult than the letting go in dying for many who refuse to wake up and find joy and even bliss in their very existance. Each day we live and die to new perceptions until the day we realize we must also live for the moment and one day physically die. Could we not also loose self in the rose and discover a deeper connection? There are great distractions along the way, the ego reminds one regularly there is always tomorrow, yet these false ideas only prevent one from seeing that the only true living is what is happening right now. Not the past, nor the future. It is in embracing the breath of the moment, taking life in with all of our senses. It is all to simple to get caught up in the winds and not fly freely among them as a bee travels here and there, alighting upon a single rose it carefully chose.

I would have chosen the easier path of ignorant bliss in my youth had it been the only option, waited until the day of death to catch me off guard, yet for me other options did present themselves and became clear sooner. I choose differently. I have had the privelege in the past fifteen years to work with many who are dying and know they reached the end and yet strive to instill in them the will to live each of the days they have now to the fullest. They learned each in their own way how to stop and smell the roses, to notice their unique nuances. It is not enough to offer comfort, love and care. Of greater importance is conveying spiritual knowledge from within the depths of ones own self, to awaken it within them. In the acceptance of the dying process and in death itself a transformationl process is born. In compassionate service to the other, I actually learned how to better serve self. Death is neither an experience of deperation or one of heightened euphoria. Rather it is a fact of life as is living. Neither version of death or living is depressing or exciting all its own, but what one makes of the experience, the grey area does exist for those who seek to understand its beauty. For self, I find beauty in the rose petals turned to potpourri, a dried rose who sits in a vase upon a shelf and in the one still blooming upon the vine, even in the one yet to open to its first morning sunrise. It is indeed a matter of perspective and acceptance of each cycle, arriving in each moment.

I have beheld both the living and the dying within my hands and found joy and pain in both. I stopped judging with my mind one to be more desireable than the other. Living my life granted me many opportunities to embrace such a philosophy as this. I created a living will reminding my family and doctors to let me go and not to cling to what I once was, the beautiful rose upon a vine, for now I was choosing in my process to also let go and live fully. I was allowing the sweet rapture of its bliss. Letting go was the most liberating experience of living thus far. In the process of letting go, I also found health had returned to me. Pondering dying and living has awakened within me fresh perspectives, allowed me to search out true meaning for my life and a deeper commitment to my purpose within the greater scope of things. I have delved into the zeal bursting forth from my center and strive to be in service to others and to a more globally conscious state of being, by serving and accepting self first.

May many thoughts add unto the continuing story of life as it is created... manifesting the vision for all humanity from this moment forth. Living is an opportunity to embrace wholeness. I trust that in transforming my own consciousness, I will have an influence on society based upon what is now known to be true of science and have faith that as each individual takes upon them this role of truly living, our world will be restored with a sense of interconnectedness and meaning. For me it is all about remaining in Presence. The changes we seek in our world begin with self and spread outward in every direction infinitely. Holding this state of conscious thought and truly beleiving it becomes the vehicle for transference from one self to the other.

David, thank you...you stretched my box this morning!
Transfer Print PDF Bookmark Top
qOLOp
Re: The Rose and The Bee Posted on: 2006/1/10 12:13
=->qOLOp
Oh, you're so very welcome :) You know my nly desire is to stretch each and every one of your boxes... just as you stretch mine... whether you do it consciously or unconsciously. I'm always watching, listening and feeling :) Thank you suzyq.. please do show us more of your mind. It's exhilarating. You know, as individuals we can only achieve individual goals. As a whole we can achieve global goals. Let's keep that in mind.
Transfer Print PDF Bookmark Top
(1) 2 » Top Previous Topic Next Topic
Register To Post