Re: Who or what is the devil!

Posted by wizanda on 1130936739
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Isa 14:12-16 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! (13) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: (14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. (15) Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. (16) They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man (??) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;


If it says man, how can this be a spiritual force, as people describe?

Definition of Lucifer is:
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hêylêl
BDB Definition:
Lucifer = "light-bearer"
1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer
1a) of the king of Babylon and Satan (figuratively)
2) (TWOT) 'Helel' describing the king of Babylon

If this dictionary says that Lucifer was a king of Babylon and what is contained in Isaiah is also referring to Lucifer as being a king of Babylon, when does a man become this force you speak of?

There is a Zen saying, "When you get on the donkey, remember you got on the donkey".

I have E-Sword with a lot of the current Bible translations, yet I can't find where Lucifer is all the way through the Bible?

Please take a step back from what you have been taught to believe, as the first will be last and the last will be first. As many have got on the slow donkey, which is going the wrong way.

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