I dont think your insane either David, in fact you seem to be sharp as a tack. If anything I'd say ya have a high I.Q. and are not easily decieved. It shows in your threads and posts. In fact if anything, this feels like you are being ficescious or funny. I like a sence of humur, it helps to dislodge the crazy stuff, and deciet, into a proper placement - like the trash can..lol

Hi wizanda, this is Dude here. I want to add to your comments about chips and marks. Revelations tells us that whoever recievs the mark in their forhead or their hand, will not recieve immortality. Now there is no way you or I, or anyone else for that matter can stop a dozen burly men from holding us down, injecting us with a shot of sleepy time stuff, and then they put a chip in you or whatever. So this bible verse about recieving it in the hand or forehead must mean something else. Th

The best description I have seen of this goes as follows.. When we recieve something in our forehead, that is where the brain is, meaning we agree with it in principle and fact, so we make a decision in our minds for it. That would be recieving the mark in the mind, or forehead. To receive the mark in our hand, is a different matter. We use our hands to work with and make a living. Especially when that verses was wrote.

To recieve a mark on the hand means that you dont agree with the policy, law, or rule being forced upon you. But ya go ahead and accept it so you can work, buy and sell, ect. Those who recieve the mark in their hand, dont agree with the policy/law, in their minds. But they accept it so they can buy and sell. Those who recieve it in their heads, believe and accept the mark as a good thing. Thats the difference. However both classes will not recieve eternal life.

The mark cannot be a chip, or a tattoo like 666, ect; because we cannot stop them from holding us down and doing these things to us. So the mark has to be something else, like a religious principle, that some agree with, and others dont agree with. Thats why I say forced sunday sacreddness is the mark of the beast. The catholic church is the fifth beast in Daniels visions, and its mark of authority, to change the bible; is sunday sacredness. This is even in writing at the vatican, I have seen these writings. So the mark is sunday observance, forced by law; versus Gods mark of 7th day sabbath keeping.

Obviously they will controll us by forcing a national I.d card, chip, or something, but that cant be the mark because we have no choice in that.

The mark has to be something we can make a choice about. And thats why the bible says that if we make the wrong choice, we will not recieve eternal life. Sunday sacredness is the mark of the beast. You'll see I am right about this in the near future. There is already pressure in America to pass laws to protect sunday because of gasoline shortages.

It starts as an econimic thing, then later becomes a volitile issue. By that I mean, I cant buy or sell unless I drop the sabbath and keep sunday. This has already happened during the dark ages when the catholics murdered people who went to church on saturday, and refused to go to church on sunday. Its going to happen again, according to the prophicies. Anywho, hope this helps clarify this some. Because denominations have #OOPS#ized and confused this issue tremendously. Of course they would, they keep sunday and curse the sabbath. Remember the mark has to be something that we make a decision about, it will a religious principle.

God bless you Wizanda in your work for Yashua...peace

Also there are two diffrent marks on the forehead, one given by the angels and one by babylon:

The one by the angels is this furrow, to mark who is too tense and angry
(Really though this is the only way that is fair, as angels don't like to Judge, so people judge them selves).

The one by Babylon, is a chip they will introduce to keep tracks on people. This is already done with mobiles. Also companies are working on making it as a new payment system.

Dude here - I am not sure I agree with this. Muslims are not very moralistc with their women. They tend to treat them like slaves or second class citizens. Also the Ottomen empire of muslims was sent out to destroy christianity. They are not tolerant of other religions either, especially christianity, or jews. They dont like people who belive Jesus was the son of God, who came to earth to die, so he could get the keys to death and the grave. Muslims feel that belief, is blashemous and needs to be wiped of the face of the earth. True muslims are not tolerant at all. I am not talking about the average joe who goes to a temple as part of a routine. I am talking about those moslims who take their religion seriously, they are dangerous to any other belief system.

T he religions will be destroyed by the coming Kingdom of God as spoken of in Daniel 2:44. The New Jerusalem will come back with it. It will land on Mt Olives and split that Mt into a valley 1,500 miles across. This earthqauke will be worldwide, and it will destroy most religions at that time. The bible tells us that Gods people will be given a new name when this happens. I think the churchs name will be called, The Lord our Rightuosness. But I am not sure, the bible mentions that title tho and it has not yet been applied to any group, so its probably the kingdom age when its applied.

As far as the Jews go, I am not sure they have any advantage either. They have rejected too many parts of the truth to be in a safe zone. Religions or denominations do not mean squat, to God or the truth. They have all been compromised by satanic forces one way or another. I think christian denominations are probably the worst. There is no freedom of thought, or freedom of consciousness there either. If you are a sabbath keeper, ya cant talk about it in sunday keeping churches because they kick you out. Pollce have been called on friends of mine trying to do just that. People have been beat up for trying to bring more bible truths to denominations. Its all perverted and sick. And just like the bible says, it has become the home of every foul bird, and snake. The bible doesnt lie....

The only one who can pull rightousness together, in a way to make a difference for the nations, is Jesus Christ. And he will do that when the New Jerusalem comes to earth to start the last harvest of humanity. Untill that happens, any efforts by governments and alliances, will come to nothing. For even the bible tells us, when they say "peace, peace", then sudden destruction shall come..

God is not to be trifled with, many nations and religions havnt figured that out yet, but soon enough, they will find out; but it will be to late. Jesus does not come back as a lamb, but Jesus comes back as a roaring Lion. A roaring Lion devours and conquers. And thats whats going to happen when this "Kingdom of God" appears. It will kill millions, if not billions of wicked pretenders, of the faith, just from the earthquake alone, which is caused by the New Jeruslame settling on earth. When Jesus comes back, all hell will brake loose upon this planet. And religions, cultures will all be damned, if they dont line up in truth and right doing...

Nope its not goint to work; muslims, jews and christians joining forces, because the moment they do that - sudden destruction comes... peace