Scotty, that is an excellent thread about 13. I feel 13 is a sacred number also. And thats probably why its been #OOPS#ized so much by the forces of darkness. All satanic covens have 13 in them. Theres 12 followers and one high priestess.

I suspect we can look at things and find more sacred things that have been assualted and tarnished, like this also. I like 13, its a good number and has been a blessing to me in several ways. Excellent thread..Right on Scotty..

Hi Wizanda, so you died but didnt become a quirk? lol .Thats interesting. I have a question for you? Do you know what the morphogenetic grid is? I read where Hitler was after it, to controll it. What do you know about it, if anything?

I dont think your insane either David, in fact you seem to be sharp as a tack. If anything I'd say ya have a high I.Q. and are not easily decieved. It shows in your threads and posts. In fact if anything, this feels like you are being ficescious or funny. I like a sence of humur, it helps to dislodge the crazy stuff, and deciet, into a proper placement - like the trash can..lol

Hi wizanda, this is Dude here. I want to add to your comments about chips and marks. Revelations tells us that whoever recievs the mark in their forhead or their hand, will not recieve immortality. Now there is no way you or I, or anyone else for that matter can stop a dozen burly men from holding us down, injecting us with a shot of sleepy time stuff, and then they put a chip in you or whatever. So this bible verse about recieving it in the hand or forehead must mean something else. Th

The best description I have seen of this goes as follows.. When we recieve something in our forehead, that is where the brain is, meaning we agree with it in principle and fact, so we make a decision in our minds for it. That would be recieving the mark in the mind, or forehead. To receive the mark in our hand, is a different matter. We use our hands to work with and make a living. Especially when that verses was wrote.

To recieve a mark on the hand means that you dont agree with the policy, law, or rule being forced upon you. But ya go ahead and accept it so you can work, buy and sell, ect. Those who recieve the mark in their hand, dont agree with the policy/law, in their minds. But they accept it so they can buy and sell. Those who recieve it in their heads, believe and accept the mark as a good thing. Thats the difference. However both classes will not recieve eternal life.

The mark cannot be a chip, or a tattoo like 666, ect; because we cannot stop them from holding us down and doing these things to us. So the mark has to be something else, like a religious principle, that some agree with, and others dont agree with. Thats why I say forced sunday sacreddness is the mark of the beast. The catholic church is the fifth beast in Daniels visions, and its mark of authority, to change the bible; is sunday sacredness. This is even in writing at the vatican, I have seen these writings. So the mark is sunday observance, forced by law; versus Gods mark of 7th day sabbath keeping.

Obviously they will controll us by forcing a national I.d card, chip, or something, but that cant be the mark because we have no choice in that.

The mark has to be something we can make a choice about. And thats why the bible says that if we make the wrong choice, we will not recieve eternal life. Sunday sacredness is the mark of the beast. You'll see I am right about this in the near future. There is already pressure in America to pass laws to protect sunday because of gasoline shortages.

It starts as an econimic thing, then later becomes a volitile issue. By that I mean, I cant buy or sell unless I drop the sabbath and keep sunday. This has already happened during the dark ages when the catholics murdered people who went to church on saturday, and refused to go to church on sunday. Its going to happen again, according to the prophicies. Anywho, hope this helps clarify this some. Because denominations have #OOPS#ized and confused this issue tremendously. Of course they would, they keep sunday and curse the sabbath. Remember the mark has to be something that we make a decision about, it will a religious principle.

God bless you Wizanda in your work for Yashua...peace