Also there are two diffrent marks on the forehead, one given by the angels and one by babylon:

The one by the angels is this furrow, to mark who is too tense and angry
(Really though this is the only way that is fair, as angels don't like to Judge, so people judge them selves).

The one by Babylon, is a chip they will introduce to keep tracks on people. This is already done with mobiles. Also companies are working on making it as a new payment system.

Dude here - I am not sure I agree with this. Muslims are not very moralistc with their women. They tend to treat them like slaves or second class citizens. Also the Ottomen empire of muslims was sent out to destroy christianity. They are not tolerant of other religions either, especially christianity, or jews. They dont like people who belive Jesus was the son of God, who came to earth to die, so he could get the keys to death and the grave. Muslims feel that belief, is blashemous and needs to be wiped of the face of the earth. True muslims are not tolerant at all. I am not talking about the average joe who goes to a temple as part of a routine. I am talking about those moslims who take their religion seriously, they are dangerous to any other belief system.

T he religions will be destroyed by the coming Kingdom of God as spoken of in Daniel 2:44. The New Jerusalem will come back with it. It will land on Mt Olives and split that Mt into a valley 1,500 miles across. This earthqauke will be worldwide, and it will destroy most religions at that time. The bible tells us that Gods people will be given a new name when this happens. I think the churchs name will be called, The Lord our Rightuosness. But I am not sure, the bible mentions that title tho and it has not yet been applied to any group, so its probably the kingdom age when its applied.

As far as the Jews go, I am not sure they have any advantage either. They have rejected too many parts of the truth to be in a safe zone. Religions or denominations do not mean squat, to God or the truth. They have all been compromised by satanic forces one way or another. I think christian denominations are probably the worst. There is no freedom of thought, or freedom of consciousness there either. If you are a sabbath keeper, ya cant talk about it in sunday keeping churches because they kick you out. Pollce have been called on friends of mine trying to do just that. People have been beat up for trying to bring more bible truths to denominations. Its all perverted and sick. And just like the bible says, it has become the home of every foul bird, and snake. The bible doesnt lie....

The only one who can pull rightousness together, in a way to make a difference for the nations, is Jesus Christ. And he will do that when the New Jerusalem comes to earth to start the last harvest of humanity. Untill that happens, any efforts by governments and alliances, will come to nothing. For even the bible tells us, when they say "peace, peace", then sudden destruction shall come..

God is not to be trifled with, many nations and religions havnt figured that out yet, but soon enough, they will find out; but it will be to late. Jesus does not come back as a lamb, but Jesus comes back as a roaring Lion. A roaring Lion devours and conquers. And thats whats going to happen when this "Kingdom of God" appears. It will kill millions, if not billions of wicked pretenders, of the faith, just from the earthquake alone, which is caused by the New Jeruslame settling on earth. When Jesus comes back, all hell will brake loose upon this planet. And religions, cultures will all be damned, if they dont line up in truth and right doing...

Nope its not goint to work; muslims, jews and christians joining forces, because the moment they do that - sudden destruction comes... peace

Hi David, I feel your pretty close to the truth here. I have experinced much of wat you talk about. The problem is obvious and its told to us in Rev 13. Here we see a beautiful women adorned with the sun, moon and stars. She is the church of God. It goes on to say that the dragon (satan) is wroth and makes war with her, by sending a flood after her. It goes on to say that the earth helps the women by opening up and swallowing this flood, the devil sends after the church.

Obviously this needs some explaining. The women is Gods people, The flood sent to her by satan are people who are not converted in thier hearts, The bible calls them tares, bad fish, goats, ect. Gods answer to all of this, is to have the earth open up and swallow the flood up. This hasnt happened yet, but will happen in its appointed time. That time seems to be when the New Jerusalem comes to earth to start uo the kingdom of God age which Daniel 2:44 talks about.

Now there is a church in almost every town in America, and Europe. If the earth opens up and swallows up all the tares and bad fish, we can see the magnitude of the earthquake, it would be world wide. The only thing I know of, that is world wide like that, is when the kingdom of God comes to earth. Jesus said when he returned, his feet will land on Mt olives, and split that into a huge vally for the saints to go to. The New Jerusalem is about 1,500 miles square. Thats how big this valley will be. Thats a huge earthqake, 1,500 miles across. So it seems this is when the flood (people) are swallowed up, to cleanse the church. God has an answer to all of this, and its in the bible. You are right, there is no freedom of speech in denominations. I have been to sunday keeping churchs and talked about the 7th day sabbath, to only get kicked out. I have been to 7th day sabbath keeping churches to talk about feast keeping, to only get kicked out. There is an inhereant problem with mankind, they get some truth and fixate on it. But then they close the door to other truths. And when God sends a messanger to bring these other truths, they cast you out as a heretic, ect. Its ridiculus and shameful, what is going on.

I suspect there will be more people who are given eternal life, who never go to church. Because they see the hypocracys, but are good people, and are thus counted worthy to cross over. Very few people who go to church will probably make it, because they have made flesh their arm, instead of truth their arm. And so it is, and so it shall be. Plus we also have satanists who have inflitrated the seminarys and churches to make damn sure it stays the way it is. Also we have wicked spirits that oversee the denominations to make sure it stays the way it is. Jesus told us, our war isnt about people, its about wicked spirits, pricipalities and such. The sooner we learn that, the more enlightened we become. Peace to you David. Good thread and very good analysis....

Hi, this is dude here. I would like to share some thoughts about the Holy Spiritand the Holy Ghost. When I read the bible I see the Father mentioned, and the Holy Spirit. I also see Jesus mentioned and the Holy Ghost. That adds up to four in the Godhead, and not three. I did some research and found out the catholic church came up with the concept of the trinity. That word was never around untill the papecy became an institution, and started to change much of the bible.

Futher studys of ancient hebrew texts show that the holy spirit is femine and so is the holy ghost- femine, So there seems to be male and female parts to the Godhead. Of course God is one, in spirit and intent, and character.

What we are dealing with is something the bible only mentions one time, I think. Its called, "the Mystery of God". This is how it appears to work. When God created the angels by spoken word, the angels materialized by the working of the feminine or Holy Spirit, this is our Fathers breath, so to speak. Similarily when Jesus spoke life onto planet earth, the feminine or Holy Ghost manifested the lifeforms as Jesus spoke. Jesus is diety, like our Father. So he works in the same way. Our Fathers counterpart is the Holy Spirit, and Jesus counterpart appears to be the Holy Ghost.

Now Jesus was beggoten, or born. He was not created like the angels were. This implys a union of some kind, between the Father and Mother (holy spirit).. Evidence points out that Jesus being diety, has to have a counterpart. So Jesus apparently was born with a twin sister or, the holy ghost. And this is why the bible records the Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost, along with the Father and Jesus. That adds up to four in the Godhead, no matter how ya appraoch it. The vaticans math is wierd, they come up with three, from four parts. I dont trust any organization that adds like that. Somethings wrong there..Stay away from them, please...

Now this implys the Holy Spirit is the Mother of us all. And we all know who the Father is. We also know who Jesus is, our big brother, and now we have a big sister, the Holy Ghost.. Jesus said it was important that He ascend to heaven, so he could send the comforter, or the Holy Ghost. Jesus did not say He was going to send the Holy Spirit, but He was going to send the Holy Ghost! It was on pentecost that the Holy Ghost came, like wind and fire, with tounges of fire, over the heads of the 120, they became filled with this spirit and spoke in tounges. I am a tounges speaker myself. Started about two yrs ago. But not everyone will speak in tounges who is saved. The bible tells us, its just one of many gifts.

It would seem that as born again believers, we have the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Ghost, inside of us. One connects us to the Father, and the other connects us to Jesus. After all there are four points to the cross, there are four major directions, there are four winds over earth, ect, ect. I supect this pattern of four, has to do with the fact that there is four in the Godhead. Just a thought there.

Christian mysticism is inspirational, it opens christians minds, that are closed by belief systems, designed to do just that... peace to you.