Did Jesus and his disciples teach the doctrine of the Trinity?

Did Jesus and his disciples teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Did church leaders of the next several centuries teach it? In the year 381 C.E., another council met in Constantinople and declared that the holy spirit should be worshiped and glorified just as the Father and Son were. One year later, in 382 C.E., another synod met in Constantinople and affirmed the full divinity of the holy spirit.4 That same year, before a council in Rome, Pope Damasus presented a collection of teachings to be condemned by the church. The document, called the Tome of Damasus, included the following statements:

"If anyone denies that the Father is eternal, that the Son is eternal, and that the Holy Spirit is eternal: he is a heretic."
Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways-and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a "duality." Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.


Trinitarians may say that the Bible "implies" a Trinity. But this claim is made long after the Bible was written. It is an attempt to read into the Bible what clergymen of later times arbitrarily decided should be doctrine.

Ask yourself: Why would the Bible only "imply" its most important teaching-who God is? The Bible is clear on other basic teachings; why not on this, the most important one? Would not the Creator of the universe author a book that was clear on his being a Trinity if that were the case?The reason the Bible does not clearly teach the Trinity doctrine is simple: It is not a Bible teaching. Had God been a Trinity, he would surely have made it clear so that Jesus and his disciples could have taught it to Matthew 28:19, 20. There the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit are mentioned together. Some claim that this implies a Trinity. But read the verses yourself. Is there anything in those texts that says that the three are one God equal in eternity, power, position, and wisdom? No, there is not. did not Jesus say on one occasion, "I and the Father are one"? (John 10:30) Yes, he did. However, that statement does not even suggest a "Trinity," since he spoke of only two as being one, not three.

. Jesus was surely not contradicting the scriptures we have already read. What he meant by this expression he himself made clear later when he prayed regarding his followers that "they may be one just as we are one." (John 17:22) Jesus and his Father are "one" in that Jesus is in full harmony with his Father. And he prayed that all his followers might likewise be in harmony with his Father, with Jesus and with one another.

When I refer to dimensions I mean the levels in which we live in, the substance of reality.
This was known by the Mayans, yet the final level was set as man as the summit, when in fact it should be God that is.
Also dimensions can be viewed in a number of different ways, as from each understanding of a dimension; the levels below are contained within it.
As well as trying to stick the dimensions in terms of our reality as Einstein did, this is also from a spiritual sense and how spirit makes up, all things.

When I refer to having been dead, I mean that my heart had stopped and I saw heaven and hell, as spirit.
The reason I remember and can tell you what it looks like, is God has given me an almost photographic spirit, in which I remember both past life's and what I viewed whilst dead.
It has taken many years to stick it into words and even with my best wording, I can not do it justice.
I can try my best to relate it in a way that can be understood, yet there are always many things that are emotions and feelings that can not be fully expressed.

Anti-matter is the opposite to matter, matter is visible anti matter is non visible.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, so for matter to hold it's self up, there is anti matter.
This maybe an easier explanation, we think in the 7th dimension, it isn't solid yet it exists.
We create in the 6th dimension; it is with matter, that we make things.

As for God being the 13th dimension, a dimension must contain the dimensions below it all things in the universe are contained by something, so God is all of the dimensions.

This is away to express some of what I saw whilst dead, the part that gets me and why I say it as if it is a fact, is that the commandments and the I-Ching's numerology align perfectly with this same pattern.

Peace B with U

Revelations contains a forgery as to end the book neatly when it was canonized, this can be shown, that it has been added to and doesn't match the context of the bible and what was stated by Yeshua.

(Rev 19:10)
Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Yeshua (Jesus). Worship God For the testimony of Yeshua (Jesus) is the spirit of prophecy".

Here is the 1st time where he bows in front of the guide.
This clearly states to worship God and Yeshua came with prophecy, so making him Elohim (angel) or a prophet. Also it clearly states that Yeshua is spirit.
Now 2 chapters later the second time it is repeated to close the bible at 66 books. (number of fallen man)

Rev 22:8-21 And I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel showing me these things. (9) Then he said to me, Behold! See, do not do it! For I am your fellow-servant, and of your brothers the prophets, and of those who keep the Words of this Book. Do worship to God.

Here it repeats it's self word for word almost, except missing out that Yeshua came with prophecy.
So why would this be a forgery? well consider the amount that is written in revelation and quite precise at times, do you really believe that the person writing could forget, that he has just been told not to worship angels and then repeat the action again in the presence of God, a chapter later??

(10) And he said to me, do not seal the Words of the prophecy of this Book; for the time is at hand.

Yeshua warned against them who say the time is near:

Luk 21:8 And He said, Take heed that you are not deceived, for many shall come in my name, saying, I AM! Also, the time has come! Do not go after them.

If the bible is a collection of books, how could the person who was in prison at the time say about the whole bible? This sort of ending could only be added when the bible was canonized.

(11) He acting unjustly let him still act unjustly. And the filthy, let him be filthy still. And the righteous, let him be righteous still. And the holy, let him be holy still.

So if Christ told us to help fetch in the harvest and to show by example, how then can we not help people become better?

(12) And behold, I am coming quickly, and my reward is with me, to give to each according as his work is. (13) I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, the First and the Last.

This when included with the beginning of revelations gives the impression that Christ is the alpha and omega. Yet if God is the "everlasting" and "for ever and ever, worthy of worship", then is God not the beginning and the end?

Rev 1:8 I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, says the Lord, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

You can see from this scripture in the beginning of revelations this clearly points to god as lord almighty.

(14) Blessed are they who do His commandments, that their authority will be over the Tree of Life, and they may enter in by the gates into the city. (15) But outside are the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the fornicators, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and makes a lie. (16) I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things to you over the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright and Morning Star. (17) And the Spirit and the bride say, Come! And let the one hearing say, Come! And let the one who is thirsty come. And he willing, let him take of the Water of Life freely. (18) For I testify together to everyone who hears the Words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add on him the plagues that have been written in this Book.

Considering the bible hadn't been finalized till later, again this is a strange point to make if this was truly written by John. Also this gives the impression the bible hadn't been tampered with, yet clear from this bit alone, we can see that it is quite easy to change parts, so that they add confusion.

(19) And if anyone takes away from the Words of the Book of this prophecy, God will take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which have been written in this Book.

This is like a thief covering his tracks, as this makes it, after the bible was canonized, we are all to except it as 100% and no one can come and say the truth.
This close the bible at 66 books (number of man), why would any prophet write that this is the end of the bible? If prophecy is something that still happens to this very day, that could only have been done when the books were canonized and so making it a complete book.

(20) He who testifies these things says, Yes, I am coming quickly, Amen. Yes, come, Lord Jesus. (21) The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with all of you. Amen.

Now with all the other bit I have pointed out the son of man will come after the courts are settled.
If you are curious where it should end have a look at the verse before, it ends in a statement, so making a logical finish to the book written by John. The rest is by who ever closed the bible as the bits added could not have been till it was canonized.

Rev 22:6-7 and he said to me, these sayings are faithful and true. And the Lord God of the holy prophets sent His angel to show to His servants the things which must shortly be done. (7) Behold, I come quickly. Blessed is he who keeps the Words of the prophecy of this Book.

This as you can see actually ends the testimony of John, after this hopefully you can now see that what is written, could not have been written by the same author.