I hear what you are getting at.
when i died, God appered to me to be unlimited wisdom and knowldege.
Through adversity comes understanding and wisdom, why we have a world like we do is all i can concluded.
Unless we rock the boat to see what happens we want to, even though the boat maker already knows we shouldn't.
Yet our spirit just want to see what happens if we do and we get splashed.

Hari Om!
I'm trying to organize a worldwide repetition of Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra, that will be held on April 9th, 2005. It will be dedicated to peace in the Middle East.
To get more info and eventually join go to this page:

http://www.geocities.com/mahamrityunjayamantra/index.html

Thanks.
JC

Fair enough

One of the main things about Christianity that i just cant swallow is that God is always presumed to be the ultimate good,and totally detatched from negative or "evil" forces...this to me this contradicts what i beleive God really is...I do beleive God is everything but the notion that God is soley "good" force leaves alot of questions to be answered,why is there "evil" in the first place for one,no story about lucifer being cast out of heaven convinces me..bible storys are just metaphors after all...also "God is everything" so the reverse must be true also "everything is God" and that includes us humans...Spirituaity is personal and indavidual,i'm still unsure exactly what it is i beleive,but the journey to disscovery is all part of the point,i personally think herding individuals to think one specific beleif system is kind of destructive in the sense that it destroys individualism and discourages difference and richness of spirit,daring and the persuit of personal discovery...this may sound selfish,but i beleive where mistakes are made lessons are learned,and if the "fear of God" stops you doing the things that are part of the journey that takes you to your true self (whatever that may be) then the individual is no more and just a identical clone of the next man that lives under the same fear of divine retribution...i would like to live in blissful harmony with my fellow man in a paradise like world,but the world we live in is far from the latter senairio,perhaps in some alternate universe or reality does a world that this exist,i beleive the mind to have the power to create other worlds,realitys,universes etc,for "everything is God" and a single thought has potenitial to destroy or create,and its up to the individual to decide which...true happiness may exist and i admire those who possess it,because i am far from happy,i consider myself spiritual but don't always feel so,prehaps the vineer between everyday life and true life with connectivity to the divine stops good,honorable souls from becoming the true one universal self that everyone is part of...some of what i say may be contradictory,and i wouldn't deny it,paradox is an inate part of the fabric of everything,things exist that would render other things void,what is before life?..i can remember things or more precisly am aware of things before life,so a paradox is created in this,these things have not happened,atleast not if you think of it in "time" terms


i have respect for Christians or Buddists or even a Pagan type people who are genuine and non-self rightous in thier outlook,"whatever floats your boat" as they say...its all part of the same thing,just a different way of looking at it...one last thing,if you ever wonder WHY?,just remember in infinity everything must be...good luck.ricoagogo@ntlworld.com