I've just come to the conclusion wiz... that God is not answering our prayers anymore... he has given us the power to do things such as turn the seas red with blood... we now have the power and the technology... yet the government is holding these thigns from us... because of greed... if we were to give everyone a little black box, the size of a radio that could power their whole house... and put one in a car so that no car would need gas... then our greed would be corrupted... MONEY MONEY MONEY, the true root of all evil. There are brilliant scientists out there, myself included, working to change the world through he means that we can. We have come to the conclusion that the people who sit around and see the catastrophic disasters happening around the world and start preaching, "get right with God, Jesus is coming back"! is exactly what is stopping us from saving ourselves, God has handed the power to us now, it is OUR responsibility to save humanity.... as Jesus said, be a light to others, give up your wealth and your reputation so that you may save others... save their lives! We need to save planter Earth, and no one is going to help us, there is no mercy for a planet full of people who feed off of greed and green paper. Wiz, we have every technology we could ever ask for being held top secret and put away because if it ever got out the government would go corrupt. We can fix everything ourselves, but people are directing their efforts in the wrong places, it needs to be directed at the governmeent, all of humanity needs to come forth and make a paradigm shift in the way the whole world economy works. Once we have thes technologies, there won't even be any need for money. Heaven on Earth? Let's make it truly happen, we've got all the morals right here Wiz, we're all bright, we see the falicies in "Christianity"... they will do nothing but sit around and preach from their bible while humanity burns in the lake of fire and perishes from this universe forever because no one took the respnsibility to save ourselves. I'm just rambling now :) i've lost track of the point i was even trying to make now haha... anyway, i love you man and you know that, just think about what we should really be trying to do... win a religous war, or truly save ourslves? E.T. is not going to help us... they've already tried. More than once. I'm out love you guys, about that site that banned me... it's ok, if you really really really wanna check it out i'l lgive you the address... but i don't wanna start anything, if they banned me, theya ren't going to listen to anyone else. BTE it was about technology they couldn't udnerstand, the reason they banned me. UGH laws of physics... what laws? the 100 years of science we have that we think are set in stone?

Hey David, please give us that web site. I beg you, I beg you, I beg you..lol Course we have to get our heads to gether if we do this!

Hey Wiz, it might be to late in (time), to try and explain these volumnes you have. Plu the problems of mistranslations, ect. Time perionds are measured. If the kingdoms coming is only a few years away, we need to take our work to the next level. Thats goes for David and many others also. I have dropped trying to prove my experiences and such, and concentrate more on common ground.

I look for something that quickens things, by its discussion. Your gifts does that to. I have only been given 10-20 yrs with my message, then the kingdom is here..Its coming whether we hasten its coming or not. But I feel we are hastening it, its not only you, but me, and people like David, the more we talk, the better it is. It quickens things.. Anywhos, your probably doing that anyways. Your mission to tell the errors they put on us, only has a time limit to run, then it goes higher. See what I mean, its the same with me, amd people;like David. We only are given a time periond to talk, then it goes higher, into another, shorter time period. Something like that anyways. I dont know if that helped, I think I messed that up. sorry... anybody? see what you can do with it?

Hi Wiz, hey I havnt seen that thread, but will check it out.. I think why you never saw the devil, is because ya never entered the realm he lives in. There arnt that many people there. These are the fallen angels, and are hidden within the levels of darkness. From what I read there are 7 levels. Each level is split into light and dark. This splits againd and again, untill there are 144,000 levels,

So its possible you never went to many of these areas. There would be around 70,000 levels of existance in the dark side, as well as 70,000 levels in the light side. By going to far ya can pass heaven up, i would think. Especially when are just consciousness and no body. You know there is more than one heaven, i am talking where the throne of God is, in Rev 4:1-4 Its the same one were we stand on the sea of glass, and we are in bodys at that time, you seem to have went past that..and you said that. I know about this. I have had it happen to me to. I also went to some levels in the dark side, and found the fallen angels..shuss - be real quite about that.

Do you get flashes of muti-colored crystal shards at times. Some of what you have written sounds familiar to me. You might have passed thru,stood on, or recieved essence and energy from the sea of glass, during some of these journeys. Thats what happened to me. I see chrystal shards, in multiple colors, at times. Like what I remember from, the Sea of Glass. Think about it Wiz, give it some time. You have been thru a lot, theres a lot of data there in. Just gotta sort it out a bit.

But anywho, you musta not went to where satan lives. Check this out, in my studys and journeys, I found in the 70,000 lights levels of astral planes. Many sfalse levels of false light. Lucifer lives in one of these levels. Now I think Lucifer and Satan are the same entity. I think he has spit, like peopel have, into duality. The Holy Ghost, she heals that in us by oneness. But Lucifer, because of his rebellion, got a dual nature. His false light side lives in the light astral planes,( a fasle light) and his carnel side (satan)lives hidden, in the dark asrtral levels. I have found both of them in my uob's. But my journeys at this time were in my control and had an agenda, to find these two and figure out wat was going on and how they do it. Thats when I found out Lucifer is a spit personality. And each is reflected in the corresponding astral plane. So the news is, thers not only a satan, but a lucifer too, he works the new age movent and things like that. Thats why it teaches we are turning into Gods, and ther really is no real God..But we are Gods, Lucifer is preaching false doctrine in New Age, just like in the churches. And his carnal counterpart, satan , is preaching false doctrine in satanism. Its all lies too.

This is funny Wizanda, after talking to me, now ya not onoly have to adjust to satsn beung real, but alkso lucifer..lol, this is so funny. lol The deal seems to bem your journeys were directed for you by an attending angel or something, and they chose not top take you to these places. I have had a couple journys like this too, where something takes me out, and shows me things. But never did they take me to where the fallen angels, satan or Lucifer live. I had to do that on my own.. See what I mean/ I know you get this, your too smart not to see this.

Man we have opened up a can of worms here. Thanks Wizanda, I dont know how you do it, But you do it! Its your gift I guess, Praise God! We might figure you out yet.lol And remember, theres two of them, not just one. Theres satan and also lucifer..whoopeee, are we having revelations now or wat. wat kind of spirit lives in you, that does this to us Wizanda? I think we got the same Holy Ghost, "She" just shined on us both, and David too; thats what I think. Right on, The Holy Ghost is here..praise God, praise God, praise God and praise God! Dont be shy, "She" dont bite! lol!

Hey that was pretty good Wiz, your right, no one can understand ya if we dont speak the same.. Hummm, uh, lets see. the spin is---whizzzzz--I declare, there is something to that.lol