Namaste

I read the article on gases and liquids

I still have big problem, what caused these to interact in the ways in which they do?

Take a step out of the picture for a minute, if you get my meaning......

Why can we with science, find these theories, you say that matter has to exist, yet what caused it to be matter?
Why is it not just random lines, all over with no form?
Why can we have a periodic table, with mathematical equations to it?

What caused it to have principles, in which to work with in?

This is what I was trying to explain, as for there to be:
A building there needs to be a builder with a plan; else the building will fall down.

For a painting a painter with an idea, if not you will end up with a messy painting.

Can you see my point from these; why are so many things in the world in which we live working in symbiosis.

Why is every animal catered for?

Why does matter get sucked in to a black hole and come out as ultra violet light (not matter)?

Do you get my point, there is something out side of the picture else it would be a mess.
There wouldn't be mathematical formulas, for us to think we discovered, and then win noble prizes.

Your thoughts?

Peace N love B with U

Before responding at this question it is important to understand who we are. We are souls. However, we are numberwise. In other words, my sense of humor is greater than Joe's but it is not as good as Jane's. My ability to comprehend, my traditions, background, etc, etc are different than anyone else. As stated before, my reality is different.

Since my reality is different you see how my understanding of faith, my understanding of what is true will be different than others.
God is the Truth. Since I am only able to perceive "my reality" and not the truth, I am looking at the elephant tail only believing that THAT is the elephant.
How do I know what is the true faith? By finding what is the true knowledge. What is the true knowledge? Something that explains you: 1) Who God is. ( Where He resides, what He does,) 2) Who am I. 3) What is my relationship with God. 4) what is the origin, middle and end of this world. 5) why is there suffering. 6) Is there complete happiness? when? Only God can explain all these things.

All faiths try to explain these questions, but if you look at them carefully, when explaining one aspect they contradict themselves in the next one.
Do we have free will or not? If yes, Why for some religions, we are born automatically as sinners? I haven't have the chance to be born but I am a sinner...Is this consistent with free will? If we don't have free will, then why do i experience suffering? How about the origin of the universe? is there a confusing, fantastic tale that explains how everything started? or is there something consistent with science and our understanding of matter?

Our intellect is what differentiates humans from other species.
It is time to use it, if we want to discover the true "FAITH." Our intellect is able to recognize God...numberwise.

Interesting explanation about the universe. I will limit to answer your question and state my viewpoint:
"Atoms join one way or another, acording to science, yet water joins both ways???
Plus water is 2 gases, why would 2 gases form to make a liquid?"

You probably meant 2 hydrogen atoms bound by 1 oxygen atom makes up a molecule of water. Different configurations can occur which are not random but predestined. As far as gases turning into liquids: "At a sufficiently high pressure, however, the gas becomes liquid." For a more detailed explanation: http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/1910/press.html
liquids and gases are just states of matter. " Matter is not created neither destroyed, it only changes." So, water changes into gases just as the water cycle pinpoints.

Science deals with matter. All questions related with matter must be explained through science; otherwise it is just mere belief. It is scientific to say that the universe couldn't be created. why? because matter cannot be created neither destroyed...atoms cannot be created neither destroyed.
It is important to understnad this point before moving on...So this means that God didn't create the universe? Yes. God is a Soul. Souls are eternal. This material world has always existed just like God and just like you and me.
Sorry to bring these news especially since they may be against the teaching of religious "holy books", etc. which were written by human beings whith the knowledge they had 2500 years ago.

Then this means that the "big bang" created everything ? NO.
Because matter is not created neither destroyed. Besides, the laws of causality and the 3 aspects of time are not followed logically when you think about a beginning. This is reasonable. This is logical. This is scientific.

Science cannot understand spiritual, subtle matters because those are not in the realm of matter. For instance, science cannot tell you how to stop your thoughts, or what are the thoughts? Science cannot understnad God because this is an experience, a different consciousness is required to perceive the subtlety of this. Normal everyday people engrossed in body consciousness cannot perceive this. Thoughts and feelings are not in the realm of science. Psychology does a lame job trying to understand this in a "scientific way."

Therefore; there is NO origin in the universe. It has always existed.. and always will. WHY? Because matter cannot be created neither destroyed... it can only be transformed.. and this is exactly what have been going on in the universe for centuries. The first LAW of thermodynamics also known as the LAW of conservation of energy/ matter, affects everyone.

YES.

There really and truely IS one true faith.

It is the faith taught by ALL the great spiritual Masters throughout history, except maybe Moses, 'father' Abraham and their whole scam about just one god... They weren't spiritual leaders anyway, but a prince and a tribal chieftan, so the truth remains that the ONE-TRUE-FAITH really has been taught by every great spiritual Master that has come along.

Right now, on this planet, the single most destructive force being used to wage terror, war, famine, horror, genocide and anarchy is the same as it has been throughout post-deluvian history; religion.

Religion (from the Latin for 'being tied down') should not and for the sake of clarity must not be confused with faith - they are as dissimilar as grapes and orangutans. So long as religions exist (or, one might say, "so long as ignorant people cling to superstitions that help them cope with the unknown"), strife, conflict and jihad will besmirch this lovely little planet of ours.

Faith, on the other hand (and thee ONE-TRUE-FAITH in particular) is the only instrument that will bring real and permanent peace to the planet.

To say that the one true faith is different for each individual, which is something that I have personally heaard in the past, is worse than just a corny cop-out; it is an outright lie. The one true faith for Joe Blow is the same as for Jane Doe - or you, or for that matter, for me.

Yeshua (pronounced 'Joshua') said it; Sidhartha said it; Zarathustra said it; Confucious Kung Fu said it; even Osirus and Dionysis are credited with having said it, but what it most reminds me of is a line of the song "I'm Free" from the rock opera "Tommy" by the Who:

"If I told you what it takes to reach the highest high, you'd laugh and say, 'nothing's that simple!' But you've been told many times before, messiahs pointed to the door, but noone had the guts to leave the temple!"

The one-true-faith is NOT faith in a god, goddess, or pantheon of supernatural beings; as an enlightened friend of mine is fond of saying, "God is Santa Clause for grown-ups."

If a person simply cannot do without the gee word, having faith in one's self can be summed up into the admonition to Be God.

Likewise, faith in humankind and the forces of nature can be boiled down to the pantheistic phrase popularised by Heinlein in the early 1960's, 'thou art god.'

SO: what does it mean to 'be god?'

(A.) accept yourself as your own personal savior (& let poor old jesus down off of that nasty cross his worshippers have kept him nailed to fo two thousand years!) !

(B.) accept responsibility for all that exists within your universe (which is not at all the same as anyone else's universe - each of us is the center of our own!)

(C.) embrace the dark side; look at the clues - good gods and bad gods in every religion known Armahd and Armizhad; Jehova and Beelzebub; Rocky and Bullwinkle... you get the picture. If you're gonna be a god, be prepared to be the devil, too (that's what devils are - the evil side of a god's personna!)

and what about that pantheism thing - that everything else is a god, too?

Easy!

(A.) treat every person, place and thing (nouns) the way a Janist treats little bugs; the way a Hindu treats cows; the way a Jew would treat the lawgiver; the way a Jesus-worshipper would treat Jesus; the way a follower of Islam would treat the Prophet. Just be plain respectful of others, as well as yourself, and of the earth and all that is on it.

BUTT - THERE IS A CATCH:

if everyone and everything is (a) god; then being a god is nothing out of the ordinary - pretty much the same as there being no god at all... That's the part that's hard for most people, inundated with superstition from birth, to accept.

If one can wrap one's tiny mind around the concept - variously known as 'the golden rule,' or 'the middle path,' or any of dozens of other euphemisms - being just one god among a multitude of others is a fascinating way to live!

love&light,
bobgod
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