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Non-Attachment! Posted on: 2006/3/6 9:09
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"There are two monks and they are crossing the river.
A woman approaches one and asks "can he help her across the river"; he refuses and the other accepts.
Once they are walking home the monk asks "why did you carry her a cross the river"
The monk replies "well, I only carried her across the river; you're still carrying her!"

Then he understood!


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Re: The book of John was written by a pharisee Posted on: 2006/3/6 8:41
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Why John contradicts the Bible

Clearly on all these points he couldn't have said these things, as they contradicted both Yeshua from what he said in the other gospels, and the Old Testament.

1. John said that Yeshua said he is the true vine, now Ezekiel said that the vine is used for burning. The vine within much of the Old Testament is the house of Israel; Yeshua referred to it the same when he said the parable of the vine dresser. In which he said the vine dressers are the teachers of the Jewish people; John said that God is the vine dresser; Yeshua said he is the owner of the vineyard.

2. John said that Yeshua is the good shepherd, yet all the way through the Old Testament God is the shepherd. This is one reason many sheep have gone astray.

3. John said that the Holy Spirit was sent by Yeshua, yet all the way through the Old Testament; the Holy Spirit is referred to and is sent by God.

4. John says that Yeshua said unless you eat his blood and flesh you have no life in you. Yet the Old Testament says that if you eat blood or flesh, God will cut you off from him.

5. John says that if you believe in the name of Yeshua then you will be saved. Yet Yeshua said to preach the gospel in his name, and repentance for the remission of sins; not sin is forgiven in his name. Also he said that those who will say, didn't we do things in your name; Yeshua says it is the ones of the father who will be saved.

6. John says that all judgement is given to the son, yet Yeshua told his disciples that to sit on his right hand or left is not his to give. Yeshua said that he judges no one, yet leaves all judgement to the father.

7. John says that those who hate Yeshua also hate God, yet many love God without knowing Yeshua.

8. John says that Yeshua said, those who came before him were thieves and robbers, yet Yeshua said they spoke of him and referred to them as friends.

9. John says that Yeshua told Philip that he is the father, yet on many occasions he says he learns from the father and the father is more then he.

10. John says that all things were made through Yeshua, yet the Old Testament tells us all things were made by God.

11. John says Yeshua said he is the light of the world, Yet the Old Testament tell us God is the light of the world.

12. John said that Yeshua is the only begotten son, yet Yeshua said those who do the work of the father, are his brothers and sisters.

13. John said that Yeshua came to bring judgement, yet Yeshua said he came to call the sinners to repentance.

14. John said to believe in Yeshua to receive ever lasting life, Yeshua said to follow the commandments and give up wealth to receive ever lasting life.

15. John said that God sent his only son to die; Yeshua said that he came to bring in the harvest. It was the Pharisees idea to kill him to steal the inheritance. Other wise this would mean that God committed murder which is not possible.

16. John says that Yeshua said he is the way truth and the life and the only way to the father, yet Yeshua said those who are pure of heart and keep the commandments will see God.

17. John tells the story of doubting Thomas, and says that Thomas calls Yeshua God, yet this is not recorded by anyone else who was there. Also Yeshua said that there is none good but God.

18. John says that Yeshua said you are not of the world, yet we were made of soil from the world.

19. John says Yeshua said he is the living water, yet the Old Testament tells us God is the living water.

If while reading this you think, maybe Yeshua is God, you will be breaking the second commandment in doing so. Most of the Gospel of John is hearsay of what people believed he might have said, and a lot is made up, to cover the backs of the Pharisees for killing him.
In all of this it is not grasping at straw, yet the facts. This is all provable with scripture. Which you will read in other articles, this is just a quick guide and there is still more to be add to this.

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Re: The book of John was written by a pharisee Posted on: 2006/3/6 8:37
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I swear the nerve of some people, this would imply Christ acused God, yet in other gospels he rebukes Simon peter(stone) for trying to stop it, as he knew it was to cut off the sects as in Zechariah, the potters field 100%

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Joh 19:11 Jesus answered, You could have no authority against Me unless it were given to you from above. Therefore he who delivered Me to you has the greater sin.


This is why we hate the doctrine of Nico-laitans or John Nicodemus, the member of the high council.

Here I will post the complaints against these books:

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Re: The 13 Dimension and Commandments explained Posted on: 2006/3/6 8:10
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I was going to go in a chat room this morning and I felt why bother, as all I would do is repeat my self. So I might as well write something worth while and leave it on here as then it stays.
So since I was going to join a Buddhist room and explain enlightenment or a Christian and try and explain how to get into heaven, I might as well do it in one.
So this is what I should have done ages ago, my breakfast that I have not being observing correctly and so my life has felt unassertive lately.

So the guide to the dimensions cross referenced, I will write it as I am waking up and what each one means to me. Also as you read this go back to the beginning once you u8nderstand one and asses your self on the others

Ok 1:

No Ego!! Now this is I, this is me, me worry, me concerning my self with attachment to who I am. What am I? I am something in the universe, how big is the universe? Huge! We are on a rock in space travelling at 2 billion million miles an hour, in 6 different directions and I worry about doing something, lol.

I worry about people and saving them, can I really can anyone? No only God and the inner voice in them self's can. And this is the I, this is the Ego, this is the test, the 1st level; is the I it is only a reflection of the truth and in the center of that truth is the unlimited knowledge and wisdom, how do I attain this when I am only on the 1st level of enlightenment? Give up self let go of desire let go of trying to hold people as your own and realise all is God and from the beginning to the end he has a plan. So if you want to help people let go, trust God all is decided each track is run for a reason. There is no point God sticking someone o a track they can't run, so don't let your ego get in the easy think your track is better or the right one.
Huge point to 1 is doing not drink as this dramatically increases your chances of getting an ego and forgetting about God in the picture.
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Be still and know that I am God!

1st seek the kingdom of heaven and all things shall be added to you!


Even now you are only a character in a page, in the book of life, which God is writing.

2: Now as you have given up your self and would be happy in the service of God regardless of what you are, even a blade of grass or a tree if you could serve God better.
So that leads us on to that God has no image and it means no, there is nothing we can use to describe God as, yes we have tried yet it is all us writing. What does God write back I have no image!! Yet we chose to ignore this and relate God to our selfs ooops back to one till you figure it out. By the way this is the after life and here in one so each level will effect your spiritual stability and amount of miracles ect and physical control of the universe.
So when you see a tree God painted that yet is not that, when you see the opposite sex that looks so good to you, god painted that, yet God isn't that,;God is far more then that as God painted it, do you get my point. So the painters ideas are a part of the painters Character yet are not the painter. So when you want to see the painter look beyond the concepts of the painting then let go of the images that the painter uses yet understand the expression, this is what Zen tries its best to describe yet as you can imagine it is difficult as which bit of the painting do you describe first?
Hopefully you see the point God isn't a man, or women, God can be what God wishes as God can create through thought.
Well how do you relate to God then if you have no where to direct your thoughts? To the brightest and highest you can imagine and keep going more as when you do you allow the universe to become more as God hears each and everything's thoughts and expression as he paint the picture.
Let go of all pre conceived ideas of what God is let your mind be in consciousness this partially part of God and what it refers to when it say in his image in the bible i.e. consciousness. God exist with in this so after realising you have no ego let you consciousness expand to be all and at one with God there is no boundaries the spirit is as big or as small as you let it .i.e. be good as else that limits you to 1 Ego.

3: I have re-equated this lately as before I saw it don't blaspheme which I don't, yet then I realised that sound is what is produced and sound isn't contained else where.
Also that sound need 3 dimensions to be i.e. length depth and width. Then it needs time which is 4.
So 3 is remember no sound you give for God is worthy of God as where did sounds come from who created them again it is like the pictures, yet this sound. As each and every sound God made who made a baby laugh? Who made a dog cry? So let go of any name you have for God ad use the most beautiful expression of you heart to call God let go of the sound you have taken as being you and words. Use pure emotion; this then applies in life as through your overwhelming bliss people around you will feel the same, if you fully understand the concept.

4 is time and space remember in each and every day spend time to reflect on god don't leave it till the end of the week and have one day to think about God and spend the rest ripping people off as many I know do and attending church regularly to make up for it. It is not acceptable and god really does see all. So learn to meditate full on God using the commandments that have been shown so far be at one in your self not wanting or needing just being still acknowledging how great God is and how your spirit and consciousness is already part of the universe and when you let go of the ego there it is, free and at one already.

To be continued....


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