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Re: CREATION OF UNIVERSE Posted on: 2005/6/25 22:34
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You said: "If we all understood everything about sickness, free will, death ect.. the meaning of life, well, why would we bother to talk to God? The same goes for any relationship we have. If we know everything there is to know about a person tehn we wouldn't bother talking to them. Maybe God wants us to ask HIM all these questions?!."

You need to have a relationship with God in order to know him. If you knew everything about your husband, you still will talk to him, why? because there is a loving bond.
God himself already has answered all these questions.. ( Everything I am posting here it is nothing else but what HE has said in simple terms, however; with my own scientific, philosophical terms.) It is just a matter of recognizing this through our intellect and... to know WHY God needs to make himself known NOW and no 2000 years ago.
The beauty is that through meditation you can experience God.
http://www.brahmakumaris.com If you want to know... and
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Re: CREATION OF UNIVERSE Posted on: 2005/6/25 17:28
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You said: "God created everything, yes. and there is tons of scientific evidence to back it up. I am not scientificaly minded and so I am glad that you are!"

Where is the scientific evidence?

Reasoning alone should demonstrate if what someone is saying is right or not. To say: You are right and you are not, doesn't make any difference unless you show WHY... to say because this person said it or because this book said so...even if believed to be holy doesn't add a drop of credibility. If you are not scientifically minded, how can you say that there are "tons of scientific evidence"?
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Re: The origin of the universe Posted on: 2005/6/25 14:12
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what you are looking at is called a self sufficient system.
We are part of it. We human beings, in this material universe are just part of this self sufficient system... we are not something separated from it. As we see that everything fits together, we can better understand the law "matter is not created neither destroyed, it only transforms" and that is exactly what happens...You perceive that matter is "recycled", the 1st law of thermodynamics says that it gets transformed....same trend of thought. However, the basic point is that matter cannot be created. It has alway existed. Your assumption that there is a need from a "beginning" of time, it is exactly what I wrote about in the beginning of the thread " the meaning of life" . I pointed out, that the linear vision of time is wrong. Because you run into the problem of finding a cause for a effect ad infinitum...without finding a "origin" o beginning you cannot assume that your theory explains what happened in the beginning. However, when you look at time as a circle, as a cycle, you can only see that the 3 aspects of time are always there and that there is always a cause for an effect. Therefore, time is eternal, cyclical and repetitive and because of all of this, it is also predestined.

Logically, reasonably speaking the universe couldn't be created. It has always existed. Of course, there are opinions that may disagree with this statement, however; what is the reasonable proof? Of course, besides the fact that some book said so...
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Re: What is the 'One True Faith'!! Posted on: 2005/6/21 16:08
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Before responding at this question it is important to understand who we are. We are souls. However, we are numberwise. In other words, my sense of humor is greater than Joe's but it is not as good as Jane's. My ability to comprehend, my traditions, background, etc, etc are different than anyone else. As stated before, my reality is different.

Since my reality is different you see how my understanding of faith, my understanding of what is true will be different than others.
God is the Truth. Since I am only able to perceive "my reality" and not the truth, I am looking at the elephant tail only believing that THAT is the elephant.
How do I know what is the true faith? By finding what is the true knowledge. What is the true knowledge? Something that explains you: 1) Who God is. ( Where He resides, what He does,) 2) Who am I. 3) What is my relationship with God. 4) what is the origin, middle and end of this world. 5) why is there suffering. 6) Is there complete happiness? when? Only God can explain all these things.

All faiths try to explain these questions, but if you look at them carefully, when explaining one aspect they contradict themselves in the next one.
Do we have free will or not? If yes, Why for some religions, we are born automatically as sinners? I haven't have the chance to be born but I am a sinner...Is this consistent with free will? If we don't have free will, then why do i experience suffering? How about the origin of the universe? is there a confusing, fantastic tale that explains how everything started? or is there something consistent with science and our understanding of matter?

Our intellect is what differentiates humans from other species.
It is time to use it, if we want to discover the true "FAITH." Our intellect is able to recognize God...numberwise.
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