Interesting explanation about the universe. I will limit to answer your question and state my viewpoint:
"Atoms join one way or another, acording to science, yet water joins both ways???
Plus water is 2 gases, why would 2 gases form to make a liquid?"

You probably meant 2 hydrogen atoms bound by 1 oxygen atom makes up a molecule of water. Different configurations can occur which are not random but predestined. As far as gases turning into liquids: "At a sufficiently high pressure, however, the gas becomes liquid." For a more detailed explanation: http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/1910/press.html
liquids and gases are just states of matter. " Matter is not created neither destroyed, it only changes." So, water changes into gases just as the water cycle pinpoints.

Science deals with matter. All questions related with matter must be explained through science; otherwise it is just mere belief. It is scientific to say that the universe couldn't be created. why? because matter cannot be created neither destroyed...atoms cannot be created neither destroyed.
It is important to understnad this point before moving on...So this means that God didn't create the universe? Yes. God is a Soul. Souls are eternal. This material world has always existed just like God and just like you and me.
Sorry to bring these news especially since they may be against the teaching of religious "holy books", etc. which were written by human beings whith the knowledge they had 2500 years ago.

Then this means that the "big bang" created everything ? NO.
Because matter is not created neither destroyed. Besides, the laws of causality and the 3 aspects of time are not followed logically when you think about a beginning. This is reasonable. This is logical. This is scientific.

Science cannot understand spiritual, subtle matters because those are not in the realm of matter. For instance, science cannot tell you how to stop your thoughts, or what are the thoughts? Science cannot understnad God because this is an experience, a different consciousness is required to perceive the subtlety of this. Normal everyday people engrossed in body consciousness cannot perceive this. Thoughts and feelings are not in the realm of science. Psychology does a lame job trying to understand this in a "scientific way."

Therefore; there is NO origin in the universe. It has always existed.. and always will. WHY? Because matter cannot be created neither destroyed... it can only be transformed.. and this is exactly what have been going on in the universe for centuries. The first LAW of thermodynamics also known as the LAW of conservation of energy/ matter, affects everyone.

Other than the fact that I met you in cyberspace the last cycle... No, I don't recall meeting you.

something that was found in another site about the origin of the universe which talks about quarks...

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/ ... ion/index.php/t41064.html

"....well hydrdogen is not just hydrogen, its a proton and an electron, so basically protons and electrons are the begining of everything, however protons and electrons are made up of quarks, so basically quarks are responsible for the beggining of everything, however, some beleive even quarks can be further broken down, all the way down to strings, which are in essense just infinetly small loops of vibrating energy, and if this is true, then the energy that can neither be created nor destroyed is the beggining of everything, and if that is true, than that means everything is, has been , and always will be, infinite, and never actually had a begining in the first place..."

Obviously he/she meant "eternal" rather than "infinite."
Since logically if matter cannot be created neither destroyed, whatever exists is what exists, we cannot add / substract things to it, so it is not infinite.

Who was created first the chicken or the egg? ( and most important:WHY?)

"The problem of the origin of the universe is a bit like the old question: Which came first, the chicken, or the egg." - Stephen Hawkins
Philosophers and Scientists treat this question as a conundrum. The belief is that the "Time arrow" is a "straight line"; from a nebulous beginning to an uncertain future. This question is answered if we consider time as being curved, a circle. Then, around this circular time there is always a chicken before an egg and an egg before a chicken. Time is cyclical and predestined. Past, present and future are relative to a point of reference (Einstein). There is no creation, things always existed but changed. "Matter is not created nor destroyed, it only changes". This is called eternity. There is neither beginning nor end in eternity.

Evolutionists and Creationists cannot explain the "beginning" in a rational way, some believe in a "supernatural beginning" which is not consistent with the first law of conservation of energy. Some others talk about a big explosion, not realizing that something had to cause it. The law of "cause and effect" cannot be ignored or used only when convenient. If matter cannot be created the logical solution is that matter always existed. This logical solution is fully consistent with the cyclical model of time which is well known by Eastern cultures, which by the way; are the oldest cultures in the world (with quite a bit of wisdom and knowledge as we in the west are finding out).
The three aspects of time; past, present and future must be present in any reasonable explanation of time. Time being movement from being to becoming cannot be linear, cannot be a "straight line". When we think about a "beginning" we are not following this logical thought.
The western world has chosen to ignore this view and rather follow contradictory beliefs.

God is in the realm of the unlimited. God being beyond physical matter does not deal with matter at all. God is an incorporeal entity, a soul, just like we, humans are souls with a bodily experience, even though we may believe that we are bodies and because of that "illusion" we experience suffering. (duality of matter.)

It is quite impressive that in this age of technology and knowledge of how matter operates, we still believe in traditions and contradictory ideas which logic and reasoning can solve. It is a wonder how we aren't open minded to knowledge but instead choose the more convenient and traditional ideas even though irrational.

Just before changing the record, some clarifications follow to make things accurate:

You said:
"So since i have died before and seen heaven/Oneness and God.
Plus got a chance to see, who and what my soul is, does that mean we can then move on to discussing this? lol, sorry, Shalom, Namaste!!"

You ARE a soul. you cannot see what your soul is...

You said:
"These have been used by the powers that be to control as the word states from latin, re=to bring under or bring back to control, legion=group of people, this i was told by my mum who studied latin, yet i havent fully checked it my self."

If you check religion comes from the latin "religare" = to tie again, to tie fast.. to bind together..

You said:
"So if it is going to get better, we need to realise there is much knowledge with in these books."

There is much knowledge but not accurate knowledge and certainly God had nothing to do with them.

You said:
"As for the question, put your self in the role of the creator of exsistence, then work out what purpose we have."

We are eternal beings. We cannot be created neither destroyed. Souls are eternal. Matter is eternal too. Matter cannot be created neither destroyed, it can only be transformed...God did not create us. God did not create the world. It has always existed. (i'll be happy to discuss about this one more time)

You said:
"This is where i started the thread, as we can clearly see we are need to be part of the symbiosis.

Now the symbiosis is one, yet we have disconnected from this and become unlike any other specics even bacteria has a purpose."

Your thread will not be disconnected again. The purpose of a bacteria depends on the eyes which are looking at. The purpose of a bacteria changes if you are a scientist or if you are another bacteria....

You said:
"So change the record and choose what is best, rather then running a record that isn't in harmony."

In a predestined world you cannot change the "record", but yet if you are aware, you could. The songs in th record are eternal, it will play the same tune, but yet every time, we think the tune is new...the truth is a paradox.

Om Shanti.