If the list of the different beast in Daniel is different kingdoms that rose up and took control i.e. Alexander the great, Mongolian and Roman Empire being the metal beast.
If that is right, does that mean that the 1st beast in revelations is the Roman Empire as indeed it was a beast of metal? The second beast that takes its power would be all Christian churches, which have continued the teachings passed on to Rome. This would make sense on a number of factors as they indeed did change time, as we now, still have the Roman calendar. They introduced the need to census people and this is still being done. The Roman Empire had a council of rich elders who ruled, and people needed to pay taxes to employ the elders.
If this is so, this would also confirm the age of kali (age of metal) for the Hindus as indeed most of the world is still currently ruled by the roman empires principle; under the disguise of being by Christ.
Does anyone know of a good site, to help with what the symbolic references are in Daniel, as the part in revelations is easy to say, yes it is the Christian churches which have influenced our political system to be like that of the roman empire. They also are easy to say that yes they are the children of the mother of all harlots as they teach to worship Christ. They pass on the drinking of wine (blood) which is a sin and is clearly prophesied to be the city built on blood shed.
Anyways what do people think?

Any seventh day adventists church has good books on the beasts and who they are, in chronological order. You are right; that most governments operate froma roman principle. It was Rome who invented democracy, or rule by the rich over the rest. The metal beast in daniel, grew horns on its head. One horn grew up and uprooted three horns. This is the papecy who uprooted the vangoths, istigoths and another "goth" to get controll of europe. The beast would be the nations of europe, and the little horn speaking blashemys is the pope who ruled europe then.

The beast in revelations is a continuation of the last beast in Danial. . Then we have the "image to the beast" or apostized protestants who follow the catholics holy days, feast days and such. These are ridden by a women harlot, or babylon- who is drunk with the blood of the saints. This implys an ongoing slaughter, murder of Gods people thruout the ages which is collectivly called babylon. Babylon can morph, and shapeshift with the times. During the early chuch age it was the romans who killed millions of christians. When the pope came along, that system killed millions of christians, even 80 million were murdered during the reformation alone. In the last generation its the image of the beast or protestantism who will kill Gods people. Thinking they are serving God, but really the devil! The papecy will be here then to, doing the same thing where it has power. The harlot or mystery babylon rides both beasts in the last days and becomes drunk on the blood of the saints it murders. Revelations pulls the "image to the beast and the beast" together in its last chronological manifestaion, in the last time period. Time appears to be measured with respect to prophecys.

It interesting how you refer to the taking of communion as being drunk on the blood of the saints. Because its not that at all, this blood that babylon is drunk on, is the blood of all she has murdered these last several thousand years. You really get wierd at times, I dont think you are a prophet anymore. You attack the truths like babylon being drunk on the blood of martyers and change it to mean by taking communion we are drunk on that blood.

Something in you is intentionally hiding the fact that babylon is drunk on the blood of close to a billion christians she has murdered over the ages. I dont trust you no more. Anyone who would deliberalty try and hide the murder of a billion christens by babylon, to say its not about that; but its about taking communion, does not know the Yashua I serve. Something is terribly wrong with you? Goodbye! Yopu need deliverance. I really feel satan speaks thru you at times. If its not him, then its possble you are mind controlled and do not know it. Regardless, something is wrong with you. I love you, but cannot hang ith you anymore. You just denyied the murder of millions of Gods people by babylon, saying taking communion is whats its about. Your trying to hide the fact the bible tells us babylon is drunk on the blood of all the christians she has killed. And for that I reject you and have to walk away. I will not stand by and let you deny these victoms their right to be heard, by saying its about communion. Who the hell do you think you are? That verse is not about communion, its about the papecy killing 80 million plus christians and she is drunk from that blood. Your a freak, for trying to hide that. Shame on you and goodbye...

Quote:Micah 2:11

So?

Also Christ didn't teach communion the fake prophets Paul and John did.

As I have written up in an article, communion has been forged if you look at the beginning of acts, they remebered with the breaking of bread; not wine!

Also since God holds in his right hand a cup of wine that babylon gets drunk on and christ sits at the right hand yet nether taught to drink wine. Yet in fact the opposite and they forged it, I feel what I was saying is correct.

If you disagre with something, it doesn't give you the rights to attack people, as you keep doing.

If you feel I have attacked you in other posts, all I was saying is how you are portraying your self, is not one of a follower of Yeshua, as you should learn to walk 2 miles not half and then get angry at people as you disagree with them.

Please try and post peacefully!

Babylon is drunk ftrom the blood of the saints she has killed over the millinium. Thats what that scripture is talking about. I f you want to attack communion, you are going to have to use some other verse that deals with that. This is just one of your problems wizanda. You pick a subject you want to correct according to your understanding, but often use the wrong verses to support your belief.. Thats why few will hang with you. You seem like you are really medicated real heavily at times because you constanly trip up like that. If you think communion is satanic, then use the proper verses to show that. Using the scripture that babylon is drunk from the blood of the saints she has killed doesnt work for communion.. It makes you look like your off the chain. Which you are in my opinion.. And when anybody tries to help you by pointing these things out, you go into "well I had a trip to heaven.. Nobody cares about that. And also that does guruantee you anything at all. Your salvation is based on doing the right thing your whole life.. If you do good, then decide its to much truoble and becaome a bad person 6 months before you die, you dont get salvation.. It dont matter how many times you have been to heaven at all, that dont mean you can reciev eternal life.

You know what I mean, now straighten up and act right.. What the hells the matter with you anyways. You act like a pompous ass at times, other times it like "oh poor me" Then at times you say ., "well I been to heaven".. No one cares about that. What they care about is you taking verses out of context, and building doctrine out of that. You do the same thing babylon does. Your ridiculus trying to use the blood of the murdered saints that babylon is drunk with; and to say that means we shoulndt do communion. You dont even make sense anymore, you seem to be heavily medicated or its the pot, or something because you float way to much.. Sometimes your OK, other times you are off the chain in a huge way. Now you straighten up and get focused. This aint no game, we are in the final stretch home, and we need clarity..not this bullshit! peace...

Bottom line; anyone who dishonors the martyers like you just did, will probably not recieve eternal life. You cant slam martyers and expect mercy from the Father. And you just slammed them by trying to change the meaning of those verses. Your disgusting for doing that! Quit being manipulated like that! In Yashuas name - amen!